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The International Compost Sanitation Forum and Message Board: Humanure Composting Around the World: A Video
Author: saths
Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 9:18 am
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To Mr. Jenkins,
It would be nice if you and your family and other people would make a video for sale showing people the composting, fertilizing, growing, harvesting, storing steps so people could get an appreciation of God's recycling ability and especially the reward of the harvest.Your family looks healthy in your pictures. I bet it would be a great video.

Author: Joe Jenkins
Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 6:53 pm
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You're 100% correct and I've been thinking about putting together a humanure video soon. Right now I'm at the stage of trying to figure out what software and hardware I need. I already have the digital video camera and computer. If you or any other of you have any knowledge about this please pass some of it on to me. I also have other videos I'm working on.

The humanure video is important because the system is so damn simple yet people tend to complicate it unnecessarily (segregating toilet paper, for example). I would like to show how we do it so that any misunderstanding is minimized or eliminated. Maybe this spring I'll get it together. Wanted to do it last spring, but didn't get around to it.

Author: saths
Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 11:59 am
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To the Jenkins Family,
I wondered if you had a camcorder to make a video. I don't know about digital.Have you started with it yet?

Author: Joe Jenkins
Monday, May 13, 2002 - 7:37 pm
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We do have a digital camcorder and intend to make a video, minus the actual act of defecation, unless of course, volunteers come forward for this. Don't know how soon we'll do it though. Probably start with the emptying of the bin next month and the start of a new one (pile) at that time.

Author: Stephen
Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 9:15 am
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One thing that would be great for the video but time consuming would be if you would interview folks with different systems or types of systems.
To show the viewers that this is not such a rare and crazy concept.
Also explain the outhouse concept which is more acceptable than ours but has too many flaws that you can explain. Explain how different the methods are.
Water consevation should also be a topic, and just how rare clean water is.
There are many avenues that could work to make a great video BUT, in order to make it worth anything it MUST be seen. I dont mean by us "believers" I mean the majority, and especially the Environmental agencies that can further research and promote composting.
People will believe them over a roofer.
Just a very few ideas,
Stephen

Author: saths
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 3:45 pm
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Today on the "Rosie O'Donnel Show" a young man was telling how he pooped without flushing to bother a friend. Then Rosie said "Everybody poops." I wondered if it might be a name for a video. I agree Stephen that water conservation should be a topic. Maybe people who are happy with their systems could video tape helpful information and send it somehere to be part of a video.Or maybe phone conversations could be recorded & used with pictures. Anyway something like a documentary with doctors who know about the harm done from humanure polution & scientists who have studied it & of course Mr. Jenkins who has the proof of his own system.

Author: saths
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 4:12 pm
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Or maybe "Poo Polution" could be a name for a video. There's already a pooper scooper on sale at department stores to clean up after dogs & cats.

Author: saths
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 4:15 pm
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Or maybe "Poo Solution."

Author: saths
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 6:27 pm
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Or maybe "Polution Solution"

Author: saths
Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 10:34 am
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To Mr. Jenkins,
Or maybe you already have a name for a video.Right? Excuse me for being to interested in a video maybe.I just think that it would be pretty effective at showing people a way to do something like original farming like in Eden when water was pure everywhere I guess. Do you have help for making a video yet. On national public radio last Tuesday they were talking about saving the earth with conservation so people must be thinking about it. The Program was called "The Connection".

Author: Amy-Sunshine
Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 12:37 am
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Hi Joe,

In 2001 I worked for a local public TV station that had just implemented digital technology. You need a fast computer to edit digital video, and you need PLENTY of hardrive space. If your computer is pre-year-2000, it probably won't cut it. With digital editing, believe me, you will appreciate having the fastest and biggest computer; it really makes a difference in speed and capacity. I can't rattle off all the numbers anymore (Was it 40Gigs we had on our computers?), but that should give you a rough idea.

We used iMovie, a great, simple program for Mac's. There's equivalent PC software, I can look into it if you like. Final Cut Pro is the most professional thing out there, but exceedingly expensive, complicated and confusing for your use. Go with something simpler!

I recommend just start shooting. The nice thing about non-linear editing is you can import all the footage into your computer (if you have enough hardrive space) and re-arrange things in a snap. You can also add titles, special effects, overlay audio, etc. Digital video is definitely the way to go!

Good luck!

Author: Jera Jones
Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 11:09 pm
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I think, "Give a shit! Don't pollute!" might be a nice name for a video. To Anonymous, I live in Fallbrook, California.

Author: Joe Jenkins
Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 10:54 am
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Let's have a contest to see who can come up with the best title for a humanure composting video!!

I have done a video, by the way. Now I just need to edit it. Still haven't got the software. One thing at a time.

Author: DaronPage
Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 5:19 pm
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Try these:
Recycling at its Best - Humanure - Facts and Fiction
Make Compost not Sludge
Humanure Composting Made Easy
Humanure Composting From Start to Finish
A Bucket to Remember
Better Homes and Gardens one Bucket at at Time

Author: DaronPage
Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 5:22 pm
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Try these:
Recycling at its Best - Humanure - Facts and Fiction
Make Compost not Sludge
Humanure Composting Made Easy
Humanure Composting From Start to Finish
A Bucket to Remember
Better Homes and Gardens one Bucket at at Time

Author: Anonymous
Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 6:59 pm
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What about "Eternal Cycling"

Author: Joe
Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 9:29 pm
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I was thinking along the lines of "How to Shit in a Bucket."

Author: taliesin
Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 2:54 pm
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I saw this on a web site. Maybe you could use it for your video. You could call it:

Humanure Composting--
Do more with mess

Author: Anonymous
Monday, September 16, 2002 - 9:55 am
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what about "Eternal Cycling Has Big Wheels"

Author: shelly
Monday, September 16, 2002 - 11:05 am
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How bout How to Shit In a Bucket (and grow carrots at the same time).
Someone would look at a title like that and say, "What the...?" and pick it up to read. Or I would anyway.

Author: shelly
Monday, September 16, 2002 - 11:07 am
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Sorry. That would be to watch.

Author: Stephen
Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 11:39 pm
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How about
"Composting Humanure"

Author: Anonymous
Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 3:43 pm
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What about "Our Common Thread"

Author: Anonymous
Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 8:47 am
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What about common cause orground?

Author: Anonymous
Friday, September 20, 2002 - 3:12 pm
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What about "How to start good compost in a pail".

Author: saths
Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:02 pm
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To the Jenkins Family,
Are you storing your harvest now?

Author: admin
Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 12:23 am
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Today is the last day of summer and I just came in from the garden under the light of the full moon. The air was absolutely heavy with the fragrances of nicotiana, sweet annie, and lavender. We ate the last of the sweet corn tonight, along with a big pile of green and yellow beans. This is late for us to be still picking beans - they're usually done by now. No frost yet, and it's a warm night. We often have a hard frost by now, but none in sight. Tomorrow is the spring equinox and the full moon, and being a Saturday night we'll be sure to party it up. Happy fall to you all!

Author: admin
Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 12:25 am
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PS: I don't know why my messages are being signed "admin" even after I make sure to put my name on them. If they're from "admin," they're from me (Joe Jenkins).

Author: Anonymous
Friday, November 08, 2002 - 5:36 pm
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It looks like mischief. Maybe it would be better out of there.

Author: Ron
Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 6:21 am
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I have made a video using my computer with a card that accepts input from a video recorder. Software comes with the card and the price range is from $50 -$150 dollars. I saved the video in MPEG format and put it on a CD which can be viewed on most PC's that have a windows media player. Once you make one CD it is easy to make copies and relatively cheap.

Author: admin
Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 2:03 pm
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What is the name brand (and any other specs) of the card?

Author: Ron
Sunday, December 22, 2002 - 5:33 pm
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I'm at work right now and I don't remember the brand name I have. In my case it wasn't a card, it was a device that connected to one of my USB ports. I had problems trying to record sound through it, but got around that by plugging the sound from my Camcorder directly into my sound card rather than through the device. I sell composting toilets and wanted a better way to distribute the promotional video other than a VHS tape. Recording on CD worked out fine for me, I was even able to put the catalogue on the CD.

Author: admin
Monday, December 23, 2002 - 1:27 pm
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That sounds great. I'm getting inspired!

Author: Ron
Monday, December 23, 2002 - 5:11 pm
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I read your Humanure Handbook on line, then printed it out so I would have references, and I was so moved by it that I purchased it. It came in today and I can't wait to read it again! You've given me a reason for being. I've never been so pasoinate about anything since I was young and wanted to be a rock'n'roll star. I've done much reading on environmental issues and begun writing several articles. Also I'm driving everyone around me crazy, always talking about sewage and composting and poison water. Can I E-mail you directly without posting?

Author: admin
Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 1:31 pm
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You can email me at joe@jenkinspublishing.com

Author: truth seeker
Monday, January 06, 2003 - 8:13 am
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Because some people use the word shit for lies why not make a new word "shen" meaning the end of shit.

Author: ella
Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 5:51 am
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If you are still looking for a name for your video, how about "THE GREEN LATRINE" and then what ever sub title would best fit.

ella

Author: rt
Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 9:27 pm
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Joe,

There might be a market for a "humanure kit". It would contain a sawdust toilet, a certain amount of sawdust, your book, optionally the video (for extra cost...), the compost thermometer (extra) and for the grand package a "compost kit" to build the compost bins. It would contain the wood to build a 4 X 4 X 4 compost bin. The buyer would only have to get the nails and the carbonaceous material for the compost. You could tailor it from the smallest "kit", just the book or optionally all the way to the grand package based on client needs/wants based on the extras.

RT

Author: saths
Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 9:58 am
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Mr. Jenkins,
What do you do with your garden refuse in the fall of the year?

Author: saths
Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:58 am
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I found the answer to my question above in the book. What about calling a video "How to mind your own business"?

Author: Anonymous
Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 4:34 pm
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Local cable companies must by law give people
access to video facilities so that they can have
a Community Access channel,,they will show you how
to use the equipment and give you a studio to
work in and then show your show on TV,,usually
repeatedly because so few people take advantage
of the opportunity,,also,you might find volunteers
from the Media department of a local College,even
some high schools have Media studies,,I hope to
see your Video soon,maybe I could show it at the
Local Library as a coommunity service..

Author: Anonymous
Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 11:09 pm
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"Minding Your Business,"... sounds catchy.

Author: saths
Monday, December 01, 2003 - 10:37 am
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What about "Genesis 2:15"?

Author: Anonymous
Monday, December 08, 2003 - 8:26 am
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I noticed that in the bible genesis chapter 2 verse 15 god told adam & eve to guard & tend the garden. I think that thermophilic humanure composting makes that possible--- like one messageboard poster said. I think it "closes the loop".

Author: Anonymous
Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 10:37 am
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I guess the garden would be guarded from insects & diseases & tended with good soil.
Also it would guard people from many kinds of hungers & tend them with many kinds of mercies.

Author: Anonymous
Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 10:39 am
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MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!

Author: Anonymous
Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 6:56 am
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Do you harvest all your crops by hand?
Do you have any machinery?
Do you grow all your own food?
Do you have to buy food?

Author: Joe Jenkins
Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 11:31 am
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We (Jenkins) have a garden which we work by hand. It provides a good portion of our annual food. We do buy food on a regular basis.

Author: Anonymous
Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 7:27 am
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What hand tools do you use for your garden & fruit trees?

Author: Joe Jenkins
Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 3:46 pm
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The standard - shovels, rakes, hoes, hand trowels and occasionally a roto-tiller in the garden. Not much in the orchard except pruning tools and an orchard sprayer for organic sprays.

Author: Joe Jenkins
Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 3:49 pm
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And very belatedly to Saths - we put some of the fall garden refuse in the center bin of the compost, or we leave it lie in the garden and roto-till it under in the spring.

Author: saths
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 10:10 am
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How much does a pail of humanure weigh?

Author: Joe Jenkins
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 9:31 pm
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It depends on how full it is. Water weighs 8 pounds per gallon, so filled ot the brim with water, it would weigh 40 pounds. It usually weighs half that or a little more.

Author: saths
Friday, January 30, 2004 - 1:13 pm
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Symbolicly speaking I believe that God is "changing the diaper of humanity" with your system.
Also do you know of a machine to make sawdust from tree branches? Probably a would chipper would make the product to coarse. Maybe putting the chips through the chipper twice would do the job.

Author: saths
Friday, January 30, 2004 - 1:24 pm
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I heard your radio comments over the internet by going to the address you posted. The information was far reaching & concise. I have listened to the 10 minutes about 10 times(I taped it).I believe that it reaches to God Himself.At the end of the program the host asked for Blessings. I'm sure that the whole earth would be Blessed if they listened & followed your instructions.

Author: Joe Jenkins
Friday, January 30, 2004 - 2:07 pm
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The interview is at

http://www.wyep.org/wyep/music_programs/af.asp#011404,

click on the January 14th, 2004 show.

Author: Anonymous
Friday, January 30, 2004 - 9:59 pm
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wood chipper not would chipper

Author: saths
Friday, January 30, 2004 - 10:00 pm
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Right!

Author: Anonymous
Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 3:22 am
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I wanted to know if anyone was living in Canada or Western Washington? I am a filmmaker and am looking to make a film which would deal with composting. A friend of mine suggested I write in here to see if I found any volunteers. Please email me if you are living in the area and are interested in sharing your views on the subject.

thanks
meg

Author: Anonymous
Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 1:52 pm
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Meg Leave your address.

Author: admin
Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 6:47 pm
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Try contacting Larry Warnberg at 360-665-2926 (Nahcotta, WA) warnberg@pacifier.com

Author: saths
Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 2:19 pm
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To Larry Warnburg, I emailed you & got a delivery failure. also I checked your website. I wondered if the finished compost from SCAT can be applied to a vegetable garden?

Author: Larry Warnberg
Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 11:09 am
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Land application of finished compost is a complex issue. Appendix 3 of The Humanure Handbook provides a comprehensive review of relevant guidelines. Some States offer no help, eg. Connecticut: "All wastes removed from composting toilets shall be disposed of by burial or other methods approved by the local director of Health."
In Illinois several methods of disposal are listed: "1)discharge to a municipal sanitary sewer system; 2)discharge to sludge lagoons or sludge drying beds; 3)discharge to an incinerator device; or 4)discharge to a sanitary landfill." Not much encouragement there to return valuable nutrients to the soil!
Washington State has the most specific and helpful Guidelines for land application: "Compost shall not be used directly on root crops or on low-growing vegetables, fruits or berries which are used for human consumption; however, this general restriction does not apply if stabilized compost is applied 12 months prior to planting. Where it can be shown that sludge will not come in direct contact with the food products, such as in orchards or where stabilized sludges are further treated for sterilization or pathogen reduction, less restrictive periods may be applicable."
I live in Washington State, and have obtained a permit for my composting toilet from the local Health Authority ($50). My permit specifies thermophillic composting for pathogen reduction, aging for a minimum of one year with no addition of fresh material during that interval, and burial of compost in a shallow trench, covered with soil to minimize potential contact with animals/children. I use the compost around trees in our small orchard.
Hope this gives you some ideas for land application of compost. Check the spelling on my address; you misspelled my last name.
warnberg@pacifier.com

Author: Anonymous
Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 11:06 am
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What about naming a video "Earth's Hospitality in a Pail!"

Author: Anonymous
Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 9:31 am
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What about "Controling Nature"

Author: Anonymous
Friday, November 05, 2004 - 11:56 am
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What about "Cut Greed"?

Author: Anonymous
Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 8:38 am
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What about "GRE/ED"? or GREED CUT like a reminder not to be greedy but caring about right behavior.

Author: Anonymous
Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 9:35 pm
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or GRE / ED

Author: Anonymous
Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 9:37 pm
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or GRE / ED

Author: Anonymous
Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 9:31 am
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I made 2 spaces in the 2nd post before & after the cut(/) but only one was printed. I wanted to show greed breaking up.

Author: TCLynx
Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 12:20 pm
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Any progress on the video?

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